Author: STEVE
To: Bob & John
Our rounds of exchanges aren’t as distinguishable now , since we seem to be
crossing correspondence. By coincidence
(if you believe in such), Bob seemed to focus on the same next step in this
journey – “getting there.” Though we
appear to agree on “there” (union/reunion with God), it’s clear our road has
become more bumpy. We have some
differences to discuss and learn from
At the outset of this journey, I expected we would have two major
hurdles: (1) is the Bible literally true, and (2) is Jesus the only way
there? Somewhat surprisingly, we passed
by the first hurdle relatively easily. We didn’t get stuck on whether the Bible is literally true – we
generally agree we can learn from what is written. (Bottom line, it’s not worth debating.) The second hurdle might be more difficult, but maybe we’ll be
surprised again. And even if it is
difficult, we will still learn.
A Characterization of Our Views on Getting There
Let me start by attempting to characterize our different views
on getting there. This might be an
oversimplification, but here goes:
Bob/John: Man can shape
his own belief in God, and if you generally attempt to lead a good life, you
are “in.”
Steve: Man must accept that
God made a sacrifice on our behalf, but you are “in” even if you have generally
wasted your life and have made mostly cruel or wicked choices.
Taking it a little farther:
Bob/John: I can achieve
a union with God through my own pursuits.
Steve: I can achieve a
union with God by accepting his only limiting condition -- his grace.
Another Way of Looking at This
I come from a psychology background, but you, too, are probably
familiar with Maslow’s hierarchy of needs. At the most fundamental level, man needs to have his physiological needs
met (food, shelter, health). That
hierarchy progresses upward through safety, social, esteem, and finally,
self-actualization.
Maybe God enters into a relationship with us at different
levels, based on our needs. Here are
some New Testament illustrations. A number
of folks came to him with physiological needs: “please restore my eyesight, please heal my leprosy.” The women about to be stoned for adultery
was rescued by Jesus, when he uttered such profound words that all the accusers
left her untouched (safety and social needs). Peter denies that Jesus is his friend three times and then walks away
grieved by his cowardice. Jesus later
restores Peter’s esteem by saying, “I can still use you in a very important way
– feed my sheep.”
Paul’s example is one of my favorites – a good example of
self-actualization (with a healthy sprinkle of humility):
In each of these instances, the recipient is profoundly
thankful for a God who met their needs.
OK, so you don’t need God’s forgiveness or his sacrifice. Do you need his love? Might you need his counsel or comfort
sometime? Could you use his divine help
in becoming all that you can be?
When the time comes that you might need something from God,
what leads you to believe that he cares or has the power to provide it? How do we know what God feels and can do for
us – this God we cannot see?
What can you tell your children about God? Maybe they will have needs and crises in
their lives that will far surpass yours. Would you tell them that God could help them? Why should they believe you? What evidence, or what illustrations, of what God can do would you point
out to them?
You can’t use Jesus as an example, if he was only a good
man. Sure, Jesus might be used as a
model of how we should live our lives. But if he was just a man, that tells your children nothing of what God
can do. So where do you go to
illustrate for them God’s love and power meet their needs?
Hopefully our children will outlive us. At a minimum, they will not look to us as
often for help as they grow older. That
is as it should be. But who would you
recommend they go to in time of grief or overwhelming need, if you’re not
there? Do they have any friends as
wise, as concerned, as loving as you? Could even a future spouse meet all those needs?
I Want Evidence!
From your viewpoint, where’s the evidence that God cares enough
– and has the power – to be there when we need him? If there is no evidence, or none that we trust, it seems there’s
no point in entering into this relationship with God.
Is “believing in Jesus” the only way to know God? No. But it seems to me that Jesus’ life, death, and resurrection are the
only way to know the depth of God’s love and power in meeting our needs – even
though we might not need it at that level most days.
This does not seem to be the case for you. What more convincing demonstration could God
give us? What would you offer as
evidence of his love and power? What
will you tell your children? I ask this
seriously, not rhetorically. I would
like to know your thoughts on this.
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